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		<title>By: Mike Parker</title>
		<link>http://rdist.root.org/2008/08/07/fastrak-talk-summary-and-slides/#comment-4918</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally got my refund from FasTrak so I&#039;m a little less inclined to crusade for improvements to their system.  But the whole experience was quite eye opening.  

First, off, sometimes it&#039;s acceptable to decide that the cost of a problem is still cheaper than the solution.  FasTrak could decide that the way to deal with clones is to credit anybody who calls and disputes a charge, as I did.  People would try to abuse this, but you simply don&#039;t let any one person get away with more than one, maybe two disputes.  But, if that&#039;s a conscious decision, you have to push it to the lowest level support reps.  It could have cost them $10 - the $5 credit plus $5 (being very generous) for the time required for one dispute phone call.  But, my dispute probably cost FasTrak a couple of hundred dollars and I was prepared to make it far more expensive.  I called them probably 6 or 8 times, talked to a manager, wrote to them, etc.  What a bunch of maroons...

The other eye opening thing was how totally technologically illiterate their customer service staff is.  We see it all the time in countless other support operations where untrained people working from a script force us to waste huge amounts of time trying solutions we know won&#039;t work.  But we also know how glorious it is when we get the one person on the line who actually understands the technology he/she supports and the problem is solved quickly and painlessly.  In my last conversation with FasTrak they offered to refund my $5 if I would send my transponder in (at my expense...) for testing so they could find out what was wrong with it.  Think about that for a sec - it was in my car, in my driveway, 60 miles from the GG bridge at the moment they say I drove across the bridge with it. And they think some defect in the transponder itself caused the GG bridge equipment to think it saw my transponder?  It could be this was just another hoop to make me jump through in their misguided effort to save $5 by spending hundreds talking to me on the phone and making me send a written dispute and making me ship them the transponder - maybe the next step would have been a request to bring my car in for inspection.  Or it could be that they know more about clones than they admit and wanted my transponder out of the system since some cloner somewhere apparently has grabbed my ID.  But, the simplest answer being the correct one, the truth is that the vast majority of people who work for FasTak don&#039;t have a frigging clue how the damn thing works!  Oh, what a better world it would be if more companies were more concerned with educating their workers.

I hope they realize how bad it will all get if they don&#039;t improve their fraud prevention act.  And I hope they&#039;re silently working on something.  But, based on my experience so far, they&#039;re just incompetent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally got my refund from FasTrak so I&#8217;m a little less inclined to crusade for improvements to their system.  But the whole experience was quite eye opening.  </p>
<p>First, off, sometimes it&#8217;s acceptable to decide that the cost of a problem is still cheaper than the solution.  FasTrak could decide that the way to deal with clones is to credit anybody who calls and disputes a charge, as I did.  People would try to abuse this, but you simply don&#8217;t let any one person get away with more than one, maybe two disputes.  But, if that&#8217;s a conscious decision, you have to push it to the lowest level support reps.  It could have cost them $10 &#8211; the $5 credit plus $5 (being very generous) for the time required for one dispute phone call.  But, my dispute probably cost FasTrak a couple of hundred dollars and I was prepared to make it far more expensive.  I called them probably 6 or 8 times, talked to a manager, wrote to them, etc.  What a bunch of maroons&#8230;</p>
<p>The other eye opening thing was how totally technologically illiterate their customer service staff is.  We see it all the time in countless other support operations where untrained people working from a script force us to waste huge amounts of time trying solutions we know won&#8217;t work.  But we also know how glorious it is when we get the one person on the line who actually understands the technology he/she supports and the problem is solved quickly and painlessly.  In my last conversation with FasTrak they offered to refund my $5 if I would send my transponder in (at my expense&#8230;) for testing so they could find out what was wrong with it.  Think about that for a sec &#8211; it was in my car, in my driveway, 60 miles from the GG bridge at the moment they say I drove across the bridge with it. And they think some defect in the transponder itself caused the GG bridge equipment to think it saw my transponder?  It could be this was just another hoop to make me jump through in their misguided effort to save $5 by spending hundreds talking to me on the phone and making me send a written dispute and making me ship them the transponder &#8211; maybe the next step would have been a request to bring my car in for inspection.  Or it could be that they know more about clones than they admit and wanted my transponder out of the system since some cloner somewhere apparently has grabbed my ID.  But, the simplest answer being the correct one, the truth is that the vast majority of people who work for FasTak don&#8217;t have a frigging clue how the damn thing works!  Oh, what a better world it would be if more companies were more concerned with educating their workers.</p>
<p>I hope they realize how bad it will all get if they don&#8217;t improve their fraud prevention act.  And I hope they&#8217;re silently working on something.  But, based on my experience so far, they&#8217;re just incompetent.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Lawson</title>
		<link>http://rdist.root.org/2008/08/07/fastrak-talk-summary-and-slides/#comment-4917</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, sorry to hear that. The EZPass system on the east coast does take pictures of vehicles with valid transponders so it is possible FasTrak could do that as well. I continue to hope they will address all these issues before it becomes a big problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, sorry to hear that. The EZPass system on the east coast does take pictures of vehicles with valid transponders so it is possible FasTrak could do that as well. I continue to hope they will address all these issues before it becomes a big problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Parker</title>
		<link>http://rdist.root.org/2008/08/07/fastrak-talk-summary-and-slides/#comment-4913</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in the process of disputing a FasTrak charge that is either an error in their system or the result of a clone of my transponder.  It is amazing how totally obstinate (and at time rude) they can be.  It&#039;s only $5 but I refuse to be taken advantage of.  I find it interesting that they take photos of license plates for cars that pass FasTrak lanes without a transponder - but they do not take photos of cars that do have a transponder.  In my case they could easily see that the vehicle using my transponder code was not my vehicle.  And in the case mentioned above where a cloner grabs lots of codes and only uses them once each they could easily find that a particular license plate number was associated with a large number of disputed charges all from different transponder codes.  But then, they don&#039;t really care, yet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the process of disputing a FasTrak charge that is either an error in their system or the result of a clone of my transponder.  It is amazing how totally obstinate (and at time rude) they can be.  It&#8217;s only $5 but I refuse to be taken advantage of.  I find it interesting that they take photos of license plates for cars that pass FasTrak lanes without a transponder &#8211; but they do not take photos of cars that do have a transponder.  In my case they could easily see that the vehicle using my transponder code was not my vehicle.  And in the case mentioned above where a cloner grabs lots of codes and only uses them once each they could easily find that a particular license plate number was associated with a large number of disputed charges all from different transponder codes.  But then, they don&#8217;t really care, yet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Twilley</title>
		<link>http://rdist.root.org/2008/08/07/fastrak-talk-summary-and-slides/#comment-4772</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Twilley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A suggestion for your privacy kit idea:  add an LED to tell the user that yes, the transponder is active.  Make it solid except the last five seconds when it flashes once per second, so the user can hit the button to reset the timer before it expires in case it takes longer than expected to reach the toll booth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A suggestion for your privacy kit idea:  add an LED to tell the user that yes, the transponder is active.  Make it solid except the last five seconds when it flashes once per second, so the user can hit the button to reset the timer before it expires in case it takes longer than expected to reach the toll booth.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Lawson</title>
		<link>http://rdist.root.org/2008/08/07/fastrak-talk-summary-and-slides/#comment-4766</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 02:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, you should ask for a copy of the photo they took of your license plate.  It&#039;s possible it was misread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, you should ask for a copy of the photo they took of your license plate.  It&#8217;s possible it was misread.</p>
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		<title>By: james mead</title>
		<link>http://rdist.root.org/2008/08/07/fastrak-talk-summary-and-slides/#comment-4764</link>
		<dc:creator>james mead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not and have never been a Fastrak customer.  I received a letter titled SECOND NOTICE - DELINQUENT TOLL EVASION VIOLAATION.  It claimes that 15 months ago, I went thru a fastrak lane on the Bay Bridge (no. 20) without paying or having a transponder.  I have been unable to find any info about who Fastrak is (a private company, rught?),where they are located, or any tech info about how the system works and doesn&#039;t work.  I Can not believe I would drive thru a toll booth with out stopping to pay my toll, nor can I imagine gettting a FIRST Notice about this mattter and forgetting as much.  So, if you are  not too busy and this is your area of expertise, can you respond with some information?  I have requested an administrative review, but is seems slanted towards fastrak.

 sincerely, james Mead</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not and have never been a Fastrak customer.  I received a letter titled SECOND NOTICE &#8211; DELINQUENT TOLL EVASION VIOLAATION.  It claimes that 15 months ago, I went thru a fastrak lane on the Bay Bridge (no. 20) without paying or having a transponder.  I have been unable to find any info about who Fastrak is (a private company, rught?),where they are located, or any tech info about how the system works and doesn&#8217;t work.  I Can not believe I would drive thru a toll booth with out stopping to pay my toll, nor can I imagine gettting a FIRST Notice about this mattter and forgetting as much.  So, if you are  not too busy and this is your area of expertise, can you respond with some information?  I have requested an administrative review, but is seems slanted towards fastrak.</p>
<p> sincerely, james Mead</p>
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